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2: Part Birth Chart, Part Parts Map

“When I approach parts of myself as a friend, or as someone I don’t know yet, things soften and release on their own.” — KP

KP Kaszubowski

and

Chelsea Owens

Jun 17, 2025

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In this second episode of Parts & Charts: The IFS and Astrology Podcast, Chelsea and KP explore:

What if the parts of us we try to exile (like shame, criticism, or old patterns) are actually offering us a map?

And what if our birth charts could help us read it?

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This episode takes a closer look at the IFS principle of “No Bad Parts” and how that philosophy translates into astrology. KP shares stories from her work with clients who feel stuck with so-called “bad” placements, while Chelsea unpacks how even the parts of us we want to change are usually just trying to help.

We talk about combust planets, therapist parts, self-like parts, and the parts of our charts that give us access to creative energy and clarity. You’ll also hear thoughts on what happens when clients (or we ourselves) come in with an agenda, and how to gently move from judgment to curiosity.

Key Quotes:

“When I approach parts of myself as a friend, or as someone I don’t know yet, things soften and release on their own.” — KP
“We’re not trying to kill off these parts. We’re just getting to know them.” — Chelsea
“If I hear someone exiling a placement in their chart, I pause. That’s a trailhead.” — KP
“Giving too much information can bring out a lot of thinking parts. It turns therapy into a cerebral exercise.” — Chelsea
“Most parts have a polarized counterpart. They’re usually trying to protect us in totally different ways.” — Chelsea

Timestamps & Topics:

00:00 – Welcome and a look at “No Bad Parts”
01:00 – How IFS reframes what healing looks like
04:00 – Astrology’s version of this: why there are no bad charts
06:00 – KP shares personal chart details and what others might misread
08:00 – Therapist parts, overachiever parts, and speaking clearly
11:00 – Unblending and letting go of the inner agenda
14:00 – Are some parts naturally more “positive”? What unburdening allows
17:00 – The sun as a metaphor for Self
20:00 – What Mars combust the sun might tell us
23:00 – First house placements and self-access
25:00 – A beginner-friendly explanation of what a birth chart is
29:00 – What you can still learn without your exact birth time
32:00 – Venus in Aries, transits, and changing dynamics
34:00 – Astrology as data, IFS as dialogue
36:00 – Visual parts mapping and how to track polarizations
39:00 – Do parts ever mirror people in our lives?
41:00 – Oppositions in charts and the experience of inner tug-of-war
43:00 – Living with contradictions and listening for what’s needed now